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Should Catalonia become an independent state and break away from Spain?



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The pro-independence movement in Catalonia is a first order concern in Spain and Europe. Catalonia as an independent state: is it really such a good idea? Vote and leave your arguments below.

Referendum of independence

Catalan independence campaign is gathering a noticeable amount of support within Catalonia and abroad. On 1 October 2017 the pro-independence nationalist movement organized an illegal referendum of independence. Only 3 years before, on 9 November 2014 the Generalitat (Government of Catalonia) organized another public consultation about the independence of Catalonia. Although this was not a legal referendum, banned by the Spanish Constitutional Court, the relatively high level of participation demonstrated that the pro-secession camp was very strong in Catalonia. The question whether Catalonia should become an independent state have dominated regional politics in Catalonia ever since and the tensions between the two camps have mounted.

Catalonia and independent state?

Catalan nationalist parties have claimed that there is excessive interdependence within Spain and that a much larger share of the taxes collected in Catalonia should stay in Catalonia. They have accused the government of not recognizing sufficiently their different identity and declared that it is too late to reach and agreement, so that the only way out of the current institutional crisis is to seize independence. Catalan independence parties have adopted populist communication strategy. On the other hand, pro status quo parties claim that Catalan nationalists are overemphasizing the differences between Catalans and the rest of the Spaniards and disregarding the negative consequences that the independence could have for all Spanish people (including many Catalans). They also argue that pro-independence arguments collide with  the principles of solidarity, equality and the Spanish legal framework. For them the solution to this crisis is to be found through institutional dialogue rather than with secession.

The 27 September 2015 regional elections have been a new test to measure the strength of the partisans of independence and those who want Catalonia to remain in Spain. The pro-independence parties (which have ruled Catalonia over the last few years) want to use the results of the elections as a mandate to unilaterally declare independence. This would mean a break away contrary to Spanish law, and probable exclusion from the EU and most international organizations and treaties. The stakes are high. Would a political solution suffice? 

 
 

What do you think about the Catalan case? Is Catalonia's pro-independence struggle equivalent to that of anti-colonial liberation movements? Do you think secession is the best way to solve the problems of Catalonia? Would the independence of Catalonia be positive for Catalans and the rest of the Spaniards? In case of an independence referendum, shouldn't the rest of Spaniards be consulted too? Should 16-year-olds be allowed to vote in such referendum?

Should Catalonia become an independent state and break away from Spain? Share your views about the independence of Catalonia including the reasons that have led to the current situation and any other potential solutions.


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#58  |  Jomarvic  06 November 2014 @ 17:57    leto78  (#57)

What you say about Catalonia being more diverse than other regions within Spain is very debatable. There has been a very persuasive discourse about differentiating Catalonia from the other regions and homogenising the rest of Spain as if it was only one entity. Catalonia does not have a separate history from Spain. From that perspective, Andalusia, formerly Al-andalus, would have more claims to be independent than Catalonia. The fact is that Spain is a multicultural country and that multiculturalism is respected in the current institutional framework within the limits of the Constitution of course. Spain is a democratic State and things can be changed, but following the rule of law. As for Catalonia's solidarity with the rest of Spain, please let me remind you that regions do not pay taxes. It's the individuals living in Catalonia that tend to be higher earners in the rest of Spain, and as such they pay more taxes. The same happens to people in Madrid or Balearic Islands. Any person who has a high income could claim that they don't want solidarity to be forced on them and they want to limit them, but that's how redistribution works. The government in Catalonia administer its own budget. Maybe it's time they spend the money on sensible things rather than embassies abroad and nationalist propaganda. It would be much more constructive to focus on what unite people in Spain and elsewhere rather than always thinking in what separate us.

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#57  |  leto78  06 November 2014 @ 16:47

As a foreigner that lived in Barcelona for 4 years, I totally understand their independence stance. Catalonia is very much a different country from the rest of Spain, even considering the rich cultural diversity that exists in Spain. It has its own culture, its own language (that I don't really like but respect), its own historical background and its own sports. The truth is that Catalonia as a nation-state doesn't have a true history but the region itself has a very unique history and separate from the rest of Spain.
I do think that the lack of recognition of Catalonia unique position within the Spanish state has lead to this situation. The constitutional court rejection of the key clauses in the "estatut" was seen as a complete annihilation of the diversity of this region within the state. As for the contributions from Catalonia to the other regions, there should be limits on the amount of regional "solidarity". People are willing to support others that are less fortunate but they do not want a forced "solidarity" that will make them worse off then the people they are supporting.


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